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		By: Daniel Bastian		</title>
		<link>https://www.waivingentropy.com/2013/01/11/the-hobbit-in-fast-forward-an-exercise-in-innovation/#comment-10338</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Bastian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 20:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.waivingentropy.com/2013/01/11/the-hobbit-in-fast-forward-an-exercise-in-innovation/#comment-10330&quot;&gt;Philip Jan&lt;/a&gt;.

Your opinion is shared by many it seems. That&#039;s interesting that you saw it twice. I&#039;m glad to hear the HFR was less jarring and noticeable the second time around.

Yes, the Blu-ray (as well as Blu-ray 3D) standards would have to be reworked to accompany 48p *per eye*, but if HFR catches fire (and I think it will), I am sure a 48p release will happen at some point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.waivingentropy.com/2013/01/11/the-hobbit-in-fast-forward-an-exercise-in-innovation/#comment-10330">Philip Jan</a>.</p>
<p>Your opinion is shared by many it seems. That&#8217;s interesting that you saw it twice. I&#8217;m glad to hear the HFR was less jarring and noticeable the second time around.</p>
<p>Yes, the Blu-ray (as well as Blu-ray 3D) standards would have to be reworked to accompany 48p *per eye*, but if HFR catches fire (and I think it will), I am sure a 48p release will happen at some point.</p>
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		By: Philip Jan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Jan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 14:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I saw The Hobbit in IMAX 3D in 48 fps on Day 2 of its release and I liked it. Yes, it was a little bit strange at first but I got used to it quickly. Given that we live in a time when so many movies are populated with moving shots of sweeping vistas, quick cutting, and shakey cam, I really appreciate that 48 fps actually allows me to experience these moments as more than a pretty colorful blur.

This past Sunday, upon discovering that 48 fps might not be possible on Blu-ray, I decided to go see it again in the same format. This time, aside from the first minute or so, I had no problems adjusting and I pretty much didn&#039;t even think of it anymore. So I do think that it is possible that we will get used to it in time just as I imagine people in the silent era got used to the sudden change from variable 12-24 fps to constant 24 fps.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw The Hobbit in IMAX 3D in 48 fps on Day 2 of its release and I liked it. Yes, it was a little bit strange at first but I got used to it quickly. Given that we live in a time when so many movies are populated with moving shots of sweeping vistas, quick cutting, and shakey cam, I really appreciate that 48 fps actually allows me to experience these moments as more than a pretty colorful blur.</p>
<p>This past Sunday, upon discovering that 48 fps might not be possible on Blu-ray, I decided to go see it again in the same format. This time, aside from the first minute or so, I had no problems adjusting and I pretty much didn&#8217;t even think of it anymore. So I do think that it is possible that we will get used to it in time just as I imagine people in the silent era got used to the sudden change from variable 12-24 fps to constant 24 fps.</p>
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		By: Daniel Bastian		</title>
		<link>https://www.waivingentropy.com/2013/01/11/the-hobbit-in-fast-forward-an-exercise-in-innovation/#comment-10015</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Bastian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.waivingentropy.com/2013/01/11/the-hobbit-in-fast-forward-an-exercise-in-innovation/#comment-9997&quot;&gt;Robert Mehring&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the comment Robert. Yes, daytime soaps, low budget that they are, as well as news, are typically shot on video at a format timing of 60i (with a broadcast rate of 29.97 frame/s). This not only avoids telecine judder but better fits the style of the medium. Even the seemingly trivial jump from 24 to 30 is instantly noticeable; we expect movies to follow the former rate and traditional programming the latter.

As we increase the frame rate, the relative differences become less obvious. So for example, the gap from 24-30 is more readily apparent than the gap from 48-60, all other parameters equal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.waivingentropy.com/2013/01/11/the-hobbit-in-fast-forward-an-exercise-in-innovation/#comment-9997">Robert Mehring</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment Robert. Yes, daytime soaps, low budget that they are, as well as news, are typically shot on video at a format timing of 60i (with a broadcast rate of 29.97 frame/s). This not only avoids telecine judder but better fits the style of the medium. Even the seemingly trivial jump from 24 to 30 is instantly noticeable; we expect movies to follow the former rate and traditional programming the latter.</p>
<p>As we increase the frame rate, the relative differences become less obvious. So for example, the gap from 24-30 is more readily apparent than the gap from 48-60, all other parameters equal.</p>
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		By: Robert Mehring		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 16:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great post!  I haven&#039;t seen the new HFR version but am really curious as to how it looks.  Aren&#039;t most soap opera&#039;s filmed at a higher frame rate?  I always hated the way they looked.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  I haven&#8217;t seen the new HFR version but am really curious as to how it looks.  Aren&#8217;t most soap opera&#8217;s filmed at a higher frame rate?  I always hated the way they looked.</p>
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		By: Daniel Bastian		</title>
		<link>https://www.waivingentropy.com/2013/01/11/the-hobbit-in-fast-forward-an-exercise-in-innovation/#comment-9995</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Bastian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 16:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.waivingentropy.com/2013/01/11/the-hobbit-in-fast-forward-an-exercise-in-innovation/#comment-9994&quot;&gt;Alan&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the comment, Alan. This is an excellent point. While I think our cognitive associations will certainly shift over time (i.e., our central nervous system is particularly malleable), I think younger generations accustomed to MCFI on LCD panels in their parents&#039; homes may be already there. Since this setting is often enabled by default on modern displays, there may actually be kids out there who haven&#039;t viewed non-interpolated 24p material. This is crazy to me.

So yeah, in these situations, The Hobbit&#039;s format may be old hat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.waivingentropy.com/2013/01/11/the-hobbit-in-fast-forward-an-exercise-in-innovation/#comment-9994">Alan</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment, Alan. This is an excellent point. While I think our cognitive associations will certainly shift over time (i.e., our central nervous system is particularly malleable), I think younger generations accustomed to MCFI on LCD panels in their parents&#8217; homes may be already there. Since this setting is often enabled by default on modern displays, there may actually be kids out there who haven&#8217;t viewed non-interpolated 24p material. This is crazy to me.</p>
<p>So yeah, in these situations, The Hobbit&#8217;s format may be old hat.</p>
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		By: Alan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 15:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice article. What about people who are used to watching motion processed content, as you said it&#039;s enabled by default on most tvs nowadays. The 48 frames may be right in their comfort zone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article. What about people who are used to watching motion processed content, as you said it&#8217;s enabled by default on most tvs nowadays. The 48 frames may be right in their comfort zone.</p>
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